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happy-kitchen-89482

08/23/2022, 7:09 PM
The 2.13 docs say “Java and Scala support is beta stage”. Should they still be saying that?
I feel like we’re shortchanging ourselves
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witty-crayon-22786

08/23/2022, 7:36 PM
this gets to the discussion of how the lifecycle of “experimental” features is tracked. i haven’t caught up on the other thread re: naming, but i think that a really important aspect of improving experimental features is going to be ensuring that they’re always tagged with a tracking issue that explains their status.
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right now, a tracking issue for JVM would reference at least some of the issues from https://github.com/pantsbuild/pants/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22backend%3A+JVM%22
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flat-zoo-31952

08/23/2022, 8:27 PM
Tracking is essential regardless of name
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It takes the guesswork out of questions like "how beta is beta?"
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happy-kitchen-89482

08/23/2022, 11:47 PM
I guess the backend is still named
experimental
So that docs warning is reasonable