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average-vr-56795

02/18/2019, 10:21 PM
@witty-crayon-22786 any inspiration for exciting plane projects?
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(@hundreds-father-404 I really like hacking on planes, and have 20 or 25 hours of plane travel coming up, so long for ideas of things that are nicely self-contained, don't require internet access or research, that can just be burned through)
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hundreds-father-404

02/18/2019, 11:02 PM
I wouldn’t complain about you working on https://github.com/pantsbuild/pants/issues/7150 hah. Seems very self contained and don’t think it needs internet. Also one of our last migration tasks I also would completely understand if you want to work on something less grindy 😂
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average-vr-56795

02/18/2019, 11:03 PM
Yeah, definitely in the market for fun experiments rather than worthy chores ;)
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bitter-piano-88933

02/19/2019, 3:48 PM
Actually curious about how you get into to it @average-vr-56795. I'm usually way to cramped on a plain to get any serious coding happening (and I'm not a tall person). Any tips?
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hundreds-father-404

02/19/2019, 3:57 PM
The lack of internet is what kills me
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bitter-piano-88933

02/19/2019, 4:04 PM
I use https://devdocs.io/ that let's me offline some amount of docs. But agreed, it is a pretty hefty constraint.
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average-vr-56795

02/19/2019, 4:49 PM
Yeah, the space is a bit of an issue… But internet-wise, just make sure you have any libraries you need installed, and make sure your language cares about documentation…
In go, you can just run 
go doc
and it will serve the entire docs for the standard library, and every third party lib you have installed, and life is good
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witty-crayon-22786

02/19/2019, 4:50 PM
I think cargo does as well...?
I know that the rust installer installs the stdlib docs
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average-vr-56795

02/19/2019, 4:51 PM
(In Rust you can do kind of similar, but it doesn’t include the stdlib, and you can install the stdlib docs with rustup, but they aren’t linked)
(And also, you need to manually run an http sever in the directory it spits stuff out to)
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witty-crayon-22786

02/19/2019, 5:01 PM
i might have suggested it before, but maybe: https://github.com/pantsbuild/pants/issues/4999
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average-vr-56795

02/19/2019, 5:04 PM
Ooh, could be fun…
Do we ever fork without exec from the daemon?
Or only non-daemon processes, and the process that starts the daemon?
(@witty-crayon-22786 ^^)
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witty-crayon-22786

02/19/2019, 7:31 PM
blurgh, sorry... meetings
we only fork without exec "from" the daemon
the daemon is running, has a bunch of stuff in memory, forks for a new run
@average-vr-56795: ^
when we start the daemon, we fork with exec
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average-vr-56795

02/19/2019, 9:43 PM
Ugh :( ok, that makes the notify thing so much more fiddly :( still, maybe I'll give a standalone process replacement for Watchman a go, and we can in-memory it some other time...
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witty-crayon-22786

02/19/2019, 10:36 PM
That depends whether we can stop/pause the notification consuming thread without canceling the kernel watches
If you don't need to cancel the watches, the effect would just be that you don't consume the queue while forking
(as an example: we don't cancel/close any of the python threads anymore when we fork... we just ensure that they're in a safe place for the fork)
but also: it's a prototype! can worry about solving that if the result looks good
Another general idea: "remote execution for more things": ... maybe v1 pytest or junit
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