And anotha one: <https://www.accel.com/noteworthy/...
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Does anybody understand what the expected monetization model is for these tooling companies yet?
Seems like 1. Build fast tools for $LANGUAGE 2. Launch Cloud Service 3. ??? 4. Profit!
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There is one sentence at the end that talks about enterprise scale/security My guesses are something like: • Support contracts • Cloud/SASS (something related to build, auditing, security) • A license that allows typical OSS and low-cost projects, but those larger companies that promise to build and deploy your code might pay Then, a handful of the companies that invested, they probably "just" (kinda like a donation with potential downstream money) want to use the results - as at their size/scale, build time might actually equate to real money
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And, the optimist in my hopes that these companies are pitching VC-friendly ideas, while secretly just wanting millions of dollars to fund open source ideas, knowing that the results will live on - even if they can't really be monetized in the end
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Yeah that would be nice, I hope they structure the ownership of the IP right, like Pants did with the OSS parts being in a foundation rather than in the for-profit company
I've seen too many products get yoinked out of opensource recently as investors put the screws to the companies involved to increase revenue growth
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Terraform, Redis, a handful of others I can never remember 😄
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Terraform was a real shame, because I really like HashiCorp, and I thought their model was really good
We just got hit by Confluent acquiring WarpStream and relicensing it
er no I'm misinformed there, that was another issue
I can't keep up haha
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I don't know if it's the same for terraform, but the license change isn't the only reason I'm increasingly irritated with HashiCorp. HashiCorp is really anti-community, at least when it comes to vault-related repos. Good luck getting any significant feature into Vault or any of the vault-related repos.
I too wonder about the business model for companies that just "make fast tooling" for a language.
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I would like to think that devs are fleecing VCs to make cool stuff, and I think there is some truth to that. But the money side of the software world is full of creeps that will find a way to squeeze dollars out of something by whatever means (or things will just fail).