What's the origin of the name "pants"?
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bitter-ability-32190
04/13/2022, 7:01 PMWhat's the origin of the name "pants"?
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high-yak-85899
04/13/2022, 7:10 PMirrelevant response here
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bitter-ability-32190
04/13/2022, 7:34 PMlol I meant "pants" 😂 I'll clairfy
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high-yak-85899
04/13/2022, 7:34 PMoof
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hundreds-father-404
04/13/2022, 7:54 PMPython ANT -- a tool to interact with ant from the JVM ecosystem, written in python. https://www.pythonpodcast.com/pants-monorepo-build-tool-episode-290/ mentions this near the beginning I think
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enough-analyst-54434
04/13/2022, 7:56 PMPython Ants. Pants started off as a python script to automate creating modular Ant builds. The `s`is important. There would have been no need if the Ant setup wasn't modular / multitudinous. The Python script setup recusive ant invocations to satisfy data dependency ordering.
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enough-analyst-54434
04/13/2022, 7:58 PMThe slowness of that recursion - ant / jvm have alot of startup overhead - led to the bang syntax (add ! at the end of a target address on the command line and that would trigger Pants to try to collapse the recursion from strict individual to as batched as possible - sound familiar!?). We no longer have bang syntax but we do have versions of the bang algorithm although not called that any longer.
enough-analyst-54434
04/13/2022, 7:59 PMThat jvm overhead also led to nailgun., etc.
enough-analyst-54434
04/13/2022, 8:01 PMAnd having to support custom xml snippets employed by users of the modular ant builds led to 1/2 the reason for BUILD being plain python. That allowed those custom snippets to be easily ported by modular ant build users on their own with a few lines of Python. Expedient choice for a 1 man part time team, but legacy to drag along.