so, how are you all using pants (python project) with IDEs - it seems that's all still not there yet even if PyCharm seems to be ahead a little. F.e. I can't use the exported virtualenv in my case with VSCode. any hints on this?

Have you seen this page? https://www.pantsbuild.org/docs/setting-up-an-ide

yes, sure - that's where I started

I use

pants test --debug-adapter

to connect using debugpy from Visual Studio Code. There's some details about debugging tests here: https://www.pantsbuild.org/docs/python-test-goal#debugging-tests

ok, true, totally forget about that approach - probably not attractive enough! 😄 anyways, I'm giving it a try now, thx for the hint

I think you can probably setup a debug template to make it invoke pants before launching, but I've never tried.

yeah, that should probably work with a task

Yes, there are several flags that control seeing the output, but they are all ref'ed in the doc that Tom linked. Like you have to get pants to let the stdout of pytest out (test

--debug

I believe) and then you have to get pytest to let the python code's stdout out as well (which for passing tests requires passing

-s

to pytest directly, after the

--

)