#general
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bored-art-40741
10/15/2015, 11:59 PMDefinitely on my shortlist is to enable our CI smoke test that tracks upstream pants - b
bored-art-40741
10/15/2015, 11:59 PMI'm not super concerned about when a release is cut, but it's very helpful to know which commit broke us - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:00 AM@bored-art-40741: we've thought about it a few times, but it would inevitably break halfway through the week and then not get fixed. - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:00 AMThat's still actionable information - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:00 AM@bored-art-40741: which is why people have "rc" releaes, etc - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:00 AMsortof. - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:00 AMSure, and I buy changing the release nomenclature if there's a desire for it - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:01 AMBut the "workingness" of pants is tbh mostly dictated by the handful of major players who track it - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:01 AMAnd their internals are way too complex to be modeled by upstream tests - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:01 AManywho: my point was: in apache this decision would be made for us... like it or not 😃 - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:01 AMHeh, which is why I'm mildly skeptical of introducing political overhead to the process - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:01 AMAt least before 1.0, new engine, etc - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:01 AMthey would say "wisdom" - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMquotes, for sure - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMI think pants has a really fantastic future on the horizon, but right now I think iteration speed is more important - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMI think there is some hadwave here. The real pushback I've seen is only for broken CI and community reported breaks in Apache - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMWe are green in CI and we have an existing breaks reporting community - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMThere are no differences - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMhm, okay - m
mammoth-pharmacist-54215
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMWould anyone mind merging this? I believe I still do not have access. https://rbcommons.com/s/twitter/r/2971/ - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMI do not know much about apache process, so - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:02 AMI'm actually really on these lists for 2+ years - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:03 AMYeah - I beseech no opinons, unless grounded in reality - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:04 AM@mammoth-pharmacist-54215: merging - m
mammoth-pharmacist-54215
10/16/2015, 12:04 AM@witty-crayon-22786: thanks - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:05 AMI am always a bit resistant to change, and especially to political overhead if nothing otherwise seems to require it - c
cuddly-architect-27013
10/16/2015, 12:05 AM@witty-crayon-22786: re suggestion way back about reviewers on the dev doc…will add - e
enough-analyst-54434
10/16/2015, 12:05 AMI think everyone agrees - the issue is guessing overhead vs reasonably expecting it - b
bored-art-40741
10/16/2015, 12:05 AMBut I do like structured patterns for coding - w
witty-crayon-22786
10/16/2015, 12:05 AM@cuddly-architect-27013: thanks!