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  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 8:19 PM
  • k

    kind-holiday-68516

    08/11/2015, 8:22 PM
    No, that's not right.
  • k

    kind-holiday-68516

    08/11/2015, 8:23 PM
    It should use pants.backend.core.wrapped_globs.Globs
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    08/11/2015, 8:37 PM
    ah
  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 9:02 PM
    thanks
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:32 PM
    Does anyone use the 
    --config-override
    flag?
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:32 PM
    I think we added it, but we don't appear to use it any more
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    08/11/2015, 9:37 PM
    I do, but mainly for testing
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:39 PM
    I've made it advanced for now but I'd quite like to kill it
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:39 PM
    Related: Do folks mostly agree that any option not expected to be used by regular end users of pants can be advanced, so it doesn't clutter the help?
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:40 PM
    Even if when it is specified, it's usually on the cmd line?
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:40 PM
    examples include: 
    --build-file-rev
    , 
    --lock
    , 
    --print-exception-stacktrace
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:40 PM
    I would be worried if end users were using these
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    08/11/2015, 9:42 PM
    sgtm
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:42 PM
    the previous logic was roughly 'things you set on the cmd line' vs 'things you set in config'
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:43 PM
    I'd like it to be 'things the end user needs to know about' vs 'things only site maintainers/power users need to know about'
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:43 PM
    so that the help can be a lot less cluttered
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:43 PM
    people can always do help-advanced if they really want to
  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 9:45 PM
    we do use it
  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 9:45 PM
    (er, the --config-override)
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:45 PM
    @witty-crayon-22786: OK, will leave it in
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    but set it to advanced=True
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    As I don't imagine your regular end users are using it directly?
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    consciously?
  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    yea, basically.
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    What about 
    --target-spec-file
    , 
    --spec-excludes
    ?
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    cc @ancient-stone-50795
  • w

    witty-crayon-22786

    08/11/2015, 9:46 PM
    it used to be the case that we used it to disable the cache, but we recommend 
    --no-cache-read
    now
  • h

    happy-kitchen-89482

    08/11/2015, 9:47 PM
    yeah, an entirely new config file seems like overkill
  • a

    adventurous-twilight-44110

    08/11/2015, 9:50 PM
    is it normal behavior for a workunit to suppress stdout if there’s no failure?
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