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or is there some builtin way to have a project/BUILD watched/re-run?

<@U053H6LQS> also I don’t understand why `./pants ng-killall` then run doesn’t solve it

this seems like more than just flakiness, it seems like there is some caching issue

<@U3NHXA0F2> : unfortunately there isn't a good way... we're close to having the ability to do it easily. we'd probably accept a patch to the contrib module to support a workaround there

:+1: can you elaborate on what you mean by close? like internally, or just having the framework in place?

we're integrating watchman at a very fundamental level.

would it be wiser to attempt to add it in `contrib/node` or somewhere else?

<@U053H6LQS> <@U06A03HV1> related question, i can’t seem to get any of the log lines from the resolver library (<https://github.com/ActionIQ/s3-ivy-resolver>) we pull in, regardless how many -l=debug type things I put in cmdline / pants.ini, what do I need to do to have those show up (either in cmdline or in pants server)

that's probably an ivy question. i don't know anything about its options

when you figure out what you want to pass it, you can probably `--resolve-ivy-args='$arg'`

i do get some output, just not any of the log lines I put in

(and i put them in places that *must* be triggered)

<@U0DJ6JX08> has the logging code worked in non-pants contexts? if so, also no clue, but your MessageLogger code looks suspect on inspection given this: <https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=ant-ivy.git;a=blob;f=src/java/org/apache/ivy/util/Message.java;h=1e6b67f97bc8dfbc66abb3391281dd658320a8ee;hb=HEAD>

and they get it from an apparent thread context - but most important they late bind vs your code which early binds and maybe too early before levels get set

That looks like the right move whether or not it works for sanity sake

there is no setLevel: <https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=ant-ivy.git;a=blob;f=src/java/org/apache/ivy/util/DefaultMessageLogger.java;h=7a88a36804d83fc6742e52a1a4e39ed8c4224f49;hb=HEAD>