#general
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ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 2:46 PMIn fact, I only use
../pants —help-all | less
isn’t useful unless you are just looking at global options, and it is just as quick for me to search through —help-all./pants —help - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 2:47 PMThe output from
is often long enough that I have to use less anyway../pants <goal> —help - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 2:53 PMFor example, if you type ‘./pants compile —help’ you won’t get the global options. When we add subsystem options onto it its going to get even crazier to figure out which magic thing to type to find out how to flip on a switch. - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 2:53 PMJust dump all the help and let me sort through it. - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 3:00 PMIn principle though we know about global and we know about subsystem dependencies, so if it makes the options systems easier to not gather the full universe of all, but just global, task closure, subsystem closure - presumably that would work for the use-case you describe (mod re-learning to ./pants goal -h) - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 3:01 PMI'm having deja-vu on this conversation from the very start of the new options stuff - I think we've talked down all these roads before - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:02 PMYes, and adding —help-all came out as an action item from 2 summits ago and Larry and I implemented it. - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:03 PMPantsSummitAgenda14January2015.txt - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:04 PM(along with showing long form help options - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:05 PMOK, I will leave help-all in - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:05 PMthe format might change a little bit - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:05 PMit won't be so goal-centric - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:05 PMI’m fine with that. - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:05 PMdo we need those goal headings? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMe.g., - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMcompile: Compiles code. - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMfollowed bycompile.java options: - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMcompile.scala options: - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMetc. - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:06 PMCan we junk the goal headings? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:07 PMfrom the option help output - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:07 PMyou'd still see them in the output of./pants goals - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:07 PMIs that going to make your life easier somehow? Because I never have a need to type./pants goals - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:08 PMwell, I'm trying to loosen the connection between options help and goals - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:08 PMbecause we also want help from things that aren't goals - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 3:08 PMI'll see if I can easily preserve that message - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:09 PMThat sounds OK. What do you think of putting the output of
at the top of the —help-all output?./pants goals - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:09 PMSort of as a preamble - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:13 PMwe could also list the subsystems - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 3:13 PMThat might encourage people to learn the subsystems better. the issue is that some of the goals and subsystems you never type, except to find out what the options are for them, likeivy