#general
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enough-analyst-54434
08/10/2015, 11:34 PMI'll yell when my bit is ready at any rate - a
adventurous-twilight-44110
08/10/2015, 11:34 PMokay cool. yeah I should be able to get it in rather quickly with just a try/except - a
adventurous-twilight-44110
08/10/2015, 11:56 PM@enough-analyst-54434: for testing if Go is installed, do you think something simple like
would suffice for now?which go - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 12:29 AMyup - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:04 PMqq, mostly for @enough-analyst-54434 - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:04 PMDoes anyone remember why we decided that the new options system has to know about all the scopes in advance? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:05 PMCurrently it uses this information to decide that anything that isn't a known scope is a target spec - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:05 PMbut we can also recognize target specs by the presence of '/' or ':' - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:06 PMOh, we can't if the spec is the name of a subdirectory directly below the buildroot - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:06 PMe.g.,./pants compile src - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:06 PMthat must have been why - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:07 PMbut we could detect those by checking for their presence on disk - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 2:23 PMYeah - as I recall there is no strict need for this. In fact, only those options needed for the in-play goals and their transitive task closures would be enough today. - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 2:23 PM..except for --help-all and things of that ilk - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:28 PMI'm going to slowly move towards that I think - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:28 PMI have a pending change that does just enough of that to be useful (so we can distinguish between 'that's not a spec' and 'that's not a goal' for the purpose of error messages) - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:28 PMRelated: - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:28 PMDo we still need help-all? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:28 PMIs that gigantic laundry list of options helpful? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:29 PMPart of my change is to allow
to do the right thing./pants help compile.java - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:29 PMRight now it shows help for all tasks under
, which is probably not what the help requester intended.compile - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:29 PMBut it made me wonder if help-all should still be a thing - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 2:35 PMIt seems to me the only time I'd want an all help dump would be when on some sort of pants.ini setup mission: "I'm setting up pants and exploring all the knobs available" ... this person may not know all the verbs they'll use yet - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/11/2015, 2:35 PMI think that use-case is far-fetched and the benefit marginal though - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:40 PMwe'd still have everything available in html documentation - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:40 PMin fact I don't mind if help-all points you to a URL - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:41 PMI'm just not sure about dumping everything out to the console - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:41 PMI suppose people could pipe it to grep - h
happy-kitchen-89482
08/11/2015, 2:41 PMmaybe that's useful? - a
ancient-stone-50795
08/11/2015, 2:44 PMPlease don’t take away —help-all. There are a zillion goals and this is the quickest way to find something.