#general
- e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:05 PMout running in aurora off pexes - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/04/2015, 11:07 PMidk i've been espousing the 'unzip -d foo foo.pex && python2.7 foo' to ppl - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/04/2015, 11:07 PMrather than setting zip_safe - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/04/2015, 11:08 PMno
muckery__path__ - r
rough-minister-58256
08/04/2015, 11:16 PMa viable workaround at a minimum - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/04/2015, 11:52 PMidk, a pex is a pex is a pex. it's almost tempting to start packaging them as dirs only, then let people use zipapp to turn them into a pyz - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/04/2015, 11:52 PMif we program people to think that a pex is synonymous with hashbang zip then that does pex itself a disservice. - r
rough-minister-58256
08/04/2015, 11:54 PMisnt the hashbang zip technically the ‘ex’ part of Python EXecutable tho - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:55 PMI'm sure pants would still zipify the things by default in its use of pex - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:55 PMIt also seems like you'd want to at least leave that bit an option in the pex tool if not enabled by the pex API itself - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:56 PMDon't you have .... python3 schedule peps that I don't remember ... on your side in helping train people to what needs to happen to run out of an archive? - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:57 PMI thought there was some pep that elevated to running an entrypoint in a zip to something more standard / easy to do - r
rough-minister-58256
08/04/2015, 11:57 PMyeh thats the zipapp thing wickman mentioned, https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0441/ - r
rough-minister-58256
08/04/2015, 11:57 PMnote the pex shoutout - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:58 PMyeah - so I imagine in that world, things like django et-al will adapt or document - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:58 PMand then people using pex won't be clueless on issues, since the leaf app they use will document running as a zipapp r just support it - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/04/2015, 11:59 PM... and that's probably 3 years from now, so not a great argument - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/05/2015, 12:01 AM - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/05/2015, 12:02 AMthe shit i find just searching twitter - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:02 AMheh yeah. kind of surprised 441 didnt even mention pkg_resources et al or try to address the ease of working with resources within zips - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:02 AMhah @ spex - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:02 AMwe’re up to 3: pex, spex & vex/vend - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:02 AMwhats next - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/05/2015, 12:03 AMwriting code is definitely the greatest weakness of coders, its certainly an oft-repeated lesson to not leave a vacuum in your ecosystem lest it be filled 5 times - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:04 AMhaha - r
rough-minister-58256
08/05/2015, 12:05 AMsounds like a great quote for the opening page of the sirois memoirs - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/05/2015, 12:06 AMdh-virtualenv - e
enough-analyst-54434
08/05/2015, 12:06 AMI rememoir nothing - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/05/2015, 12:06 AMlike, because why not - c
cool-thailand-74745
08/05/2015, 12:07 AMat least they give a shout out to pex insofar as they said "it was broke"