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  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:00 PM
    subtarget incrementalism is lacking in bazel, but probably for good reason (~reproducibility)
  • r

    rough-dog-96241

    05/06/2016, 10:00 PM
    I guess I could vendor everything in maven central that I use. simple smile But. Sigh.
  • b

    billowy-beach-68498

    05/06/2016, 10:02 PM
    docker is so much faster than vm, and it makes distribution easier
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:07 PM
    I only wish there were docker parity on osx - then we could fully containerize python dep builds
  • l

    limited-country-20626

    05/06/2016, 10:08 PM
    I am trying out the OSX beta right now
  • b

    billowy-beach-68498

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    now we have to do it through a vm?
  • l

    limited-country-20626

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    no real conclusions yet, though
  • b

    billowy-beach-68498

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    there is a OSX beta?
  • b

    billowy-beach-68498

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    cool
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    FWIW the beta is still through a vm
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    but no virtualbox
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    xhyve + boot2docker
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    yup
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    but still, boot2docker is linux vs osx
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:09 PM
    Yes, you really really want to dev on linux
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:10 PM
    then docker is == speed to native in human eyes
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:10 PM
    basically - 0 lags
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:10 PM
    yeah, but also use cases for exec’ing against OSX-in-container
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:10 PM
    its super nice
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:10 PM
    Well OSX can go to hell until they get reasonable license legal going
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:11 PM
    yeh sux
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:12 PM
    Before the last summit I was in vegas climbing but before that while it was raining I met an apple dude at a bar and we talked about this
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:12 PM
    He was sheepish
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:12 PM
    He agreed
  • e

    enough-analyst-54434

    05/06/2016, 10:12 PM
    He was technical sales, former dev
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:13 PM
    seems like it’d be an obv win for Apple to jump on board this train
  • r

    rough-dog-96241

    05/06/2016, 10:13 PM
    The docker-on-vagrant/virtualbox route isn’t terrible.
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:13 PM
    likely too focused on their giant market of mobile stuff vs old school computing 😞
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:14 PM
    yeah, for osx->linux its great
  • r

    rough-minister-58256

    05/06/2016, 10:14 PM
    no path for osx->osx tho
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