#general
- b
bored-art-40741
05/02/2016, 11:01 PMBut definitely doable - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:02 PMUntil we hit a different release cycle its moot, though I guess thats chicken-egg too - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:03 PMI guess it becomes important the minute there is a real 3rdparty published plugin - b
bored-art-40741
05/02/2016, 11:04 PMyeah - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:04 PMWell anyway, not sure how to do this with a smooth transition - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:06 PMI don't follow - since we do release all at once we can release pantsbuild.pants with (fake) deps on N broken-out plugins and a depreaction cycle - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:06 PMcurrent users - no disrupt, mod end of deprecation cycle - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:06 PMYeah, not sure how to do the deprecation - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:07 PMCHANGELOG is enough imo - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:07 PMrest is gravy - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:07 PMOK - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:07 PMI guess we need to bump minor version? - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:08 PMOnly for the deprecation end - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:08 PMand technically thats a major break I think - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMI think we should start to loose inhibitions about going to 2 quick,etc - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMIf the new engine is in 5 - thats fine - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMTrue - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMnumbers are not holy - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMA deprecation helper could be written that knows how to look at the plugins option - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMIf that deprecation helper were used in register.py - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:09 PMIt could see - I'm alive, but not in the plugins list - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:10 PMSo warn - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:10 PMOnly repo that this would be false in is pants itself - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:11 PMHandwaving a bit, but I think the pieces are all there - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:11 PMYeah - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:12 PMSo we want every backend to be opt-in, basically? - h
happy-kitchen-89482
05/02/2016, 11:13 PMI would settle for being able to opt-out of the default ones - w
witty-crayon-22786
05/02/2016, 11:15 PM+1 - w
witty-crayon-22786
05/02/2016, 11:16 PM...although i suspect that John's thinking about the "python needs access to maven central" case - e
enough-analyst-54434
05/02/2016, 11:17 PMYeah - that's my current focus