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i think it's likely the right tool for many cases

unless it's possible to declare on the jar_library for hadoop the various ways it will be consumed

except very conflated with operations on the transitive graph

We also would like to use scopes for things besides jar_libraries, like other java_libraries

Okay, here’s a thought. Under the `scoped(‘provided’, ‘..’)` paradigm, we can support fine-grained developer control over the classpath, since normal dependencies can be included in scoped_dependencies. E.g.:

```
java_library(name=‘…’,
  scoped_dependencies=[
    scoped(‘’, ‘:a’),
    scoped(‘provided’, ‘:b’),
    scoped(‘’, ‘:c’),
  ],
)
```

With indirection, however, the `’:b'` dependency is moved out another level, which alters what order it appears the classpath

-.py

Is 0.0.76 currently considered broken due to option changes?

I have no clue why this is actually failing

We don't override the pinger timeout values AFAIK

```commit df51e57b1946b43bf43d3d8124bb70d3ce6cb36e
Author: Nick Howard (Twitter) &lt;nhoward@twopensource.com&gt;
Date:   Mon Mar 14 13:02:08 2016 -0600

    Update --pinger-tries option to int```

Ah, and lists of dictionaries were broken as well, I think I remember?

<@U053HNE90>: <https://rbcommons.com/s/twitter/r/3580/>

<@U053HHEDG>: it shouldn't alter the ordering, no

Yeah, bfs/dfs matters there :stuck_out_tongue:

i think that we will have lost a huge amount of simplicity if all hadoop targets need to use scoped_dependencies lists

kwlzn: You mentioned 'python_library' for my flask BUILD file - shouldn't I be building a python_app instead?

so we need a fairly strong argument for certain niceties

Well we could put the `scoped` dependencies in the normal vanilla dependencies list

Also, I just realized that you can’t use indirect targets to get the behavior you want if you have a scope other than `default` on the `jar_library` itself

<@U053HHEDG>: the indirection suggestion assumes a few things

Because if the `jar_library` has scope `provided`, adding an intermediary target with scope `runtime` will effectively cause the target to be ignored