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witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:43 PM

would releases from master go there as well?

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:43 PM

they could

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:43 PM

snapshot releases etc

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:44 PM

they probably wouldn't be terribly useful then though

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:44 PM

in theory, we’re the only ones ever kicking the tires on non-formal releases

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:45 PM

so it just provides a degree of isolation between mainline and testing worlds

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:45 PM

consuming from one of these would be as simple as just dropping in a new index config

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:45 PM

I get the impression this is what most folks use testpypi for

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

but its unclear what the retention on that is

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

@rough-minister-58256: the recommended install script will currently use releases from master

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

should it? unknown.

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

oh, thought you meant like nightly snapshots

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

no, i mean the weekly releases

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:46 PM

those would be ‘mainline’ releases - hence pypi

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:47 PM

just a thought.

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/07/2016, 11:49 PM

you can also use testpypi to make sure things aren’t wonky when you do your upload… issues with your release notes, manifest file etc.

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/07/2016, 11:50 PM

@rough-minister-58256: are you suggesting our weekly releases go to testpypi instead of pypi and only user facing releases go to pypi?

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:50 PM

anything called ‘pre’ -> testpypi and consumed from there; anything else -> pypi

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/07/2016, 11:51 PM

probably more user friendly

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:51 PM

to be clear, nothing will be called

pre

anymore... need a new convention there.

rough-minister-58256

07/07/2016, 11:52 PM

(or an isolated index)

witty-crayon-22786

07/07/2016, 11:52 PM

and really, it needs to depend on how/if people are using the weeklys

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/07/2016, 11:53 PM

I don’t have any data to back it up but my guess is only people who contribute use weekly's

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/08/2016, 12:40 AM

Sorry everyone accidentally just replied to @enough-analyst-54434 rather than reply-all wrt the version naming issues.

ancient-stone-50795

07/08/2016, 11:06 AM

@mammoth-pharmacist-54215: we build a pex and distribute pants that way.

ancient-stone-50795

07/08/2016, 11:07 AM

We do use the releases for running tests.

limited-country-20626

07/08/2016, 3:24 PM

We recently changed how we consume Pants and finally treat it just like any other dependency, listed in our requirements.txt. We escaped the versioning problems because we are building our a patched sdist while p.atrick gets https://rbcommons.com/s/twitter/r/3878 upstream.

mammoth-pharmacist-54215

07/08/2016, 5:09 PM

Great, glad you guys weren’t blocked. Let me know if the name changes I proposed in the rc0 release thread work for you guys.

happy-kitchen-89482

07/08/2016, 5:29 PM

Re taking over John’s release slots. I’m happy to, since I now own a Pants-using repo. Except that the next one is while I’m at burning man, and the one after that while I’m at oldchella...

happy-kitchen-89482

07/08/2016, 5:30 PM

@witty-crayon-22786: any interest in swapping your current 8/19 slot for 8/26 and then 10/7 for 10/14 and so on?